I really enjoyed the demonstration Martin and in particular the techniques you illustrated for shipping the ball both outside and inside. I have tried this technique holding the ball gouge lower than normal and it proved to be a significant improvement on my previous attempts at cutting bowls. This alone would you pay for the demonstration ( although I did not pay as an original member of the 360 Woodturning group) and I would strongly recommend this demo for other turners at the same stage of development as myself. I am looking forward to future demos and the opportunity to learn more. Thank you again Martin for all your hard work and the time I know it takes to prepare for this kind of thing.